This is a repost from my main blog M is for Money, where I deal with finance in general not just the perils of being underwater. This is related to my earlier post, Called My Lender.
How do you come up with $153,000 in a hurry? Really I have no idea, but that is the amount I would need to refinance my mortgage. I bought a small starter home in 2005, we planned to move up after ~5 years. I took out an adjustable rate loan, which now seems like a ticking time bomb in my lap. Mortgage rates have never been better but like all the other underwater homeowners, I can’t take advantage of them. I tried calling my lender to see what they could do. The news wasn’t good.
They are holding my mortgage, it was not sold off to investors. But any modification or refinance would have to conform to traditional standards and the loan could not exceed 80% of the appraised value. The not so helpful loan officer asked how much I was upside down - I told him I didn’t know but it was significant. Afterwards, I used their online home valuation estimator. Based on my current loan balance, their value estimation and the 80% limit, the difference was $153,000. Yeah, I’ll just write you a check.
Their valuation model had some quirks, my home value was placed 50% below the comps! Only 1 of the 8 was actually in my neighborhood. None of the comps have a view like I do, most are in poor condition and all have smaller lots. Still, even an optimistic appraisal would leave me owing a hundred thousand to refinance. Money I don’t have.
The call left me rattled. I had held on to the hope that my lender, a credit union, would be more flexible. The money has already been loaned out, why not reduce the risk of default. It’s extremely painful knowing I could pay half as much for the same house. I’ve made a lot of financial mistakes in my day, but I’ve been able to recover. I don’t know what to do this time. It will take me 10 years to save up that much. If the rate adjusts to the maximum, my payments would increase by 60%. The $3500 monthly house payment would eat up most of my salary, say goodbye to saving. I feel helpless.
Thursday, January 8, 2009
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I'm not quire sure how the US mortgage system works but I hope you can get this sorted x
Don't give up. Keep calling and tell them "I am trying to avoid FORECLOSURE and BANKRUPTCY". Even if you are not.
Then also call other lending institutions. Don't give up. don't give up don't give up
Be personable and pleasant, let them know you don't know if you will make it and wouldn't this be a better option then them having another property and loss on their books - because in bankruptcy they get NOTHING from you.
The ways I would suggest are surely ones you've thought of, plus they tend to be immoral if not downright illegal!
I'm sorry you're in shtook like that. I know how it feels to be stuck in different ways... I hope things sort out for you
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This is brutal and we're in the same boat, though a bit of a smaller boat. We need 56k to refinance at 80%.
Our lender is not doing refis or new mortgages and we've been turned down twice in the last 6 months for a new mortgage.
I would think what dedicated said makes sense. Wouldn't they want to refi rather than see another bankruptcy on their books? Or do they not really care at this point?
We're so lost. Thinking about jingle mail to pay down all of our debt and start over.
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Have you had any luck with your lender? I know no one wants to walk away from a home, but at least in CA if you only have a first mortgage the lender does not have recourse against you for the deficiency after the foreclosure sale. Suze Orman essentially OK'd the idea of walking away from your 1st mortgage during a show she did a few weeks ago (the homeowner was a woman in the Bay Area, upside down to the tune of $150,000 or so and was unfortunate to have a 2nd mortgage on her home). If I lived in CA I'd be tempted to walk, or at least use the threat of walking as a negotiating tool with the lender.
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